- Title: FJ-HRN-1919
- Summary: Rock & Roll Celebrity Camp:
- Description:00:00:31 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Celebrity Camp A guy at a restaurant looking at hustler magazine then showing poster. Shows bands on board. 00:03:50 - Sound Bite Hillary Zuckerberg, Vice President of Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp Rock and Roll fantasy camp is at the basic level a chance for people of all ages to live out their fantasy. The detailed explanation is we do everything from one day to five or six camps in different locations across the country where people sign up to be in a band and they get place with a rock and roll counselor, they practice and write songs and record songs and at the end of it they play a major venue like House of Blues in BBkings and they get visited by amazing amazing talent. 00:04:32 - Sound Bite - Hillary Zuckerberg, Vice President of Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp Today Brian Wilson is coming, legendary Brian Wilson. Hell go room to room and visit our campers and their bands. Hell listen to them perform at least a song or two; hell sign some autographs and stuff. Its an amazing opportunity to be in a room with someone like that. And then he is going to do an intimate performance in our main room for all the campers and counselors and staffBrooks talksVery Cool. 00:05:01 - Sound Bite - Hillary Zuckerberg, Vice President of Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp We have great counselor talent, Glen Hughes is here, Bruce Culick is here, Jeffery Faucet who is actually Brian Wilsons musical director is here, Mickey Dolans from the Monkeys is here, David Ryan Harris who plays in John Mayers Band is here, its a really diverse group of people and I think thats what makes this such an incredible experience is that youre not just I a room with the same person. Youre in a room with Simon Curt and at dinner you get to watch Kelly Keggee play drums and you get Alan White play drums and you get watch Mikie Dons sing Last Train to Clarksville. 00:05:44 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- Two musicians talking and then move to the posters. 00:06:47 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- Rock legend sitting next to poster getting picture taken 00:07:18 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- Showing Rock camp banner 00:07:43 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- Two musicians take pictures and talk. 00:08:33 - Sound Bite- Glen Hughes Im having a lot of fun playing with my buddies, I know every counselor. David Ryan Harris is a new friend, I have known Mickey, and I have known these guys a long time. Living in L.A. and we on behalf of the other counselors what we like to do is we like to play. I like to see the faces of the cats coming in jamming with us; sometimes we forget where we have been in our careers with the gold records and what stuff. Its really great to se the lights go in their eyes whether it be a simple cord sequence or whether it be a singing notes they never thought they could sing. Its basically nurturing them you know its its theres nothing quite like this is it? I mean thats why we do it. I travel a lot but it is always nice to come back to the states whether its New York, Vegas, Chicago, or here and do this, you know its great. 00:09:46 - Sound Bite- Glen Hughes Well corporate is coming into it of course, when we started in the 60s. I just talk to Justin Hayward today from the Moody Blues, my first boss when I was17. Back then lets talk about no lasers, no drum raises, a couple of lights, a couple of beers backstage, hot chicks as always and now we have corporate, we have boxes and staple centers, we have you know all thee thee special effects one can mustard, we have lip singing, we have thee boy band phenomena come and gone, we have the Brittany spears thing that has enveloped us all, what we have what I have what we had from the 70s bless us all from Pink Floyd of course to Led Zeppelin to Deep Purple to The Rolling Stones to The Who and countless others, we have the songs. And the song is the all-important thing without the song we got what we got. 00:11:11 - Sound Bite- Glen Hughes We could talk about great music through time and there is a transition from rock and roll to Beatles to hard rock to punk to U2 aged that out then came Nirvana. And then you know it like theres been a constant shift and its always good to have shift most of the rockers here today are classic rockers and that phenom is been really well established. These songs you know like the songs from my stuff from Deep Purple of course Nick Masson, Bryan Wilson, Simon Curt from bad company went to Yes these songs are in the conscious of all of us from kids to grandparents so that kind of music never dies. In today music artist I think have maybe five years five years if theyre lucky, its different corporate has come and spoiled a lot of it. Now we all know business is business, around New York and Los Angeles but as artist we are only concerned about the songs. 00:12:31 - Sound Bite- Glen Hughes Like I say on the back end of conversation on corporate the record industry is dieing and now we have downloads and now we have garage music make it into the top 40. Now you can actually have a hit record now making it at home, make your own. Gone with the days of half a million gallo video clips, I made three on the last record for nothing and Ill do the same on this record so we have to be frugal in what we do but I have been very very bless and had a very very long career. I think most of it has to do with my conscious contact with a higher power and my willingness to go out there and still do what I do and I only do it for the art, artful reasons. 00:13:19 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- Another interviewer, interviewing a rock star 00:13:38 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- A shoot of the sir studio 5 sign 00:13:53 - B-Roll- Rock & Roll Camp- Back to other interviewers interview and then moves over to show tables and people. 00:14:45 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- A band performing a rehearing a song 00:15:36 - B-Roll-Rock & Roll Camp- showing picture of I think Willie Nelson 00:16:04 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt Why am, Im here because I am a counselor and I have done seven of these camp and Im on the board, so I guess I should be wear a suit and tie but I teach and thats what I do and um thats it. 00:16:39 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt Well I think we came from Free, Mount the Huple and King Crimson, and we had three or four years of success and we were still very young. So when we got together we were in our early or mid twenties but we already had history it wasnt like we were starting from fresh. And we were seasoned and we had the back end of Led Zeppelin, Peter Grand, and swan song they just form this new record label and they were very keened to get us launched, so there was a huge press launch in 74. We went here in L.A. we went to the four seasons in New York it was a great combination of elements and off we went. 00:17:42 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt He was wonderful. He was one of a kind, well him and neshui, his brother, there were sons of an ambassador, they came from a incredibly wealthy blue blood family from turkey, and yet he and this amazing knack of signing the right people, you know, R&B, black music, Janice Joplin, you know the list. He as an incredible work and had the constitution of an ox, he could drink and could drink us all under the table and he did frequently. But at least he picked up the tabHe was a great guy. 00:18:30 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt Huge. Its totally changed it has become a lot more corporate, downloading is killing, piracy and downloading is killing the industry unfortunately. And I could go on and on about that but I wont, its safe to say if we could put a man on the on why cant we code limewire and Karzar and have people pay it is really killing the industry. Its like I say that there are two major record labels now three if you count Island (?) but their all under umbrellas companies and in my day there were a dozen fifteen twenty labels it was a lot less corporate in those days. You still have to go out and promote your CD you still have to have to travel but as I said its a lot less personable now. 00:19:41 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt You know I have this this theory Brooks that the gold decade between 65 and 75 produced music unlike you will ever hear again and it could be combination of elements but there were so many groups starting with the Beatles and the stones and there was a massive music and when disco and punk came in they really killed it. So but It is a enduring music it still sounds pretty good today, my kids love it and they are in there teens and twenties. 00:20:29 - Sound Bite- Simon Curt I love it, I mean love it. You know you hear about those tribute bands theres a couple of tribute bands who play free and buy company songs and its just flattering and it shows that good songs endures. And we had a few good songs. 00:20:54 - Sound Bite- Mickey Dolans Well this is the Rock and Roll fantasy camp; it has been going on for a number of years this is the first one I have done as a counselor. Basically its like a baseball camp or like a sports camp where you live your dream essentially. People maybe who started out wanting to be rock and roll stars and took another path most of these people are every successful business man and business women, doctors we have a number of doctors and corporate people that still kept it up a little bit over the years with friends just hanging out. 00:21:34 - B-Roll- Mickey Dolans and Brian Wilson talk 00:23:23 - B-Roll- Brian Wilson taking photos and signing autographs 00:25:20 - B-Roll-Brian Wilson takes photos on stage 00:25:40 - B-Roll- Mickey Dolans and a band start playing beach boys song for Brian Wilson 00:28:13 - Sound Bite- Mickey Dolans As you just saw, its rock and roll fantasy camp and its where people always wanted to be a rock and roller and at some point in their lives they took a different path maybe or revisited it or decided you know. Or maybe they were always hanging out maybe friends on the weekend you know, a lot of them are in garage bands or friends or theyll play in a little club locally on jam night. This gives them an opportunity to hang and play with some of the greatest musicians in the world. And we are the counselors, the pro musicians are the counselors, and they are the campers and each counselor has six seven players and they try to make it to where every band has a drummer, bass player, guitar player, singer and a keyboard player hopefully. My co-counselor Elliot Easton of the Cars which is incredible, this is my first time but Elliot done it a few times so he knows the kind of drill. And basically, I, the counselors produce he the band as it were, we get them together we find out strengths and weakness we help them pick songs we help guide you know. Most of them are proficient enough that they can play, so we arent teaching them how to play, not in my band that hasnt happened. But there is varied degrees of abilities and stuff but it really just gives them a chance. The lad singer you just heard is a ER nurse, its a chance, its amazing to see their eyes to light up all of a sudden theyll be with me or Elliot or with other counselors. Its a dream come true, a lot of times husbands will give it to their wives as a gift or vise-versa wives will give it to their husbands as a gift. It has turned into an amazing phenomenon. Not this time but there have been instances of people with maybe a terminal illness or something and theyll have that last hurrah its amazing. 00:31:03 - Sound Bite- Mickey Dolans In so many ways at all and other ways enormously. It kinda depends on how you mean on change, I mean the, it has manly became much more diversified. Now its all niche(?) programming in every field, music, television, films not as much in films now, but certainly television, when television went to cable of course. Back in the day when I did my first series, Circus boy in the 50s there was only three channels and in the 60s when I did the Monkeys there was only three channels, so that was national mentality national demographic you werent worried about 18-24 demographic you were going from 12 to 80 demographic so that obvisely effect the kind of programming you would put on at any time of the day. I would say that is the biggest change in terms of the industry but as for as. I guess it is harder to find good stuff because there is so much now there is so many great writers and so many great actors. Theres so much material out there now so many television shows so many movies so much music its kinda of hard to sometimes sort the shaft from the wheat. Where it used to be automatic cause there was only one or two outlets, cream rises to the top, where now there are so many outlets every bodies demanding so many material. Thats one of the big changes, but the fundamental our cargo is the emotion which it has always been and is going to be our cargo as actors, writers, singers, painters, musicians whatever. Your cargo is always emotion or some emotion and that hasnt change. Thats still selling that and theres two words in Show business Show and Business a lot of people forget that. 00:33:34 - Sound Bite- John Staton Im playing guitar with the best guitar players I ever heard in my whole life and I get to stand next to him and play guitar solos with him all day long and at the end of the day we talk about music it amazing. And I got Mickey Dolans who just tells me stories from a lot of fun stuff. 00:33:55 - Sound Bite- John Staton Better better, its amazing. I was nervous for the first twenty minutes standing right next to you is a guitar legend but then your like its just Elliot Easton my god hes just in there playing the guitar and after a day you like its just Elliot were just playing. Its great its amazing. Then you see Bruce Culick and then after a day or two youre like hey Bruce hows it going? Its been great. 00:34:23 - Sound Bite- guy with blue shades Well Im out here as a counselor at rock and roll fantasy camp, and um Ive done it a couple of times before, I really enjoy it. Its fun to see people who play in bands when they were kids in high school who have become doctors and stock brokers and all that stuff get to revisit that little part of their lives that they all want to be rockers. And you never really let go of that and so it is a really joy to see them come back and be able to nurture that part of who they are for a week and have a ball and I enjoy sharing knowledge and working with them musically and that kind of stuff its quite a lot of fun it a lot of work but its a lot of fun. 00:35:22 - Sound Bite- guy with blue shades Ill tell you what the main one is to me that occur to me latterly is music used to be a shared experience. When I was a kid and a new record came out it was like a new blockbuster came out, like say the new stones or Beatle album, you would get together with your friends and maybe burn a little rope and turn the lights down and listen look at the art work and read the back cover, and no one would even talk, and you would share it and fill the record and afterwards there would be silence for a few minutes and then you would talk about it disguised it and argue about it and now it just seems that everyone is shut off in their I pod and hand phones in their own world listening to their own things and radio stations each play one type of music and so you dont listen to that station you miss a whole world of music. I grew up where it didnt used to be like that, growing up in the 60s you may hear the Beatles song and then Louis Armstrong singing Hello Dolly then Theyre Coming to Take me Away Hah, and then the Supremes then Alan Sherman Hello Mother Love. You heard everything on the same station Strangers I the Night along side The Rolling Stones and I think there was something wonderful about that. Pop just means popular it doesnt just mean like ripping back on guitars or leaping through the air its just what was popular and I kinda miss the broad open mindedness of that and in some ways this is like the Eisenhower era more when then the 60s and the subsequently decades. I feel that we went forward in technology and backward in spirit.
- Collection: Historic Films
- Producer:Historic Films
- Transmission Date:01/01/2009
- Rights:On request
- Decade: 2000s
- File Name: FJ-HRN-1919