- Title: FJ-HRN-1486
- Summary: Toronto / Jesse James Press Conference: HRN-1486 Toronto / Jesse James Press Conference A01. HRN-1486 In:00.00.01 Out: 00.01.23 B-Roll: Introducing Panel A02. HRN-1486 In:00.01.25 Out:00.02.53. Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad Not completely what attracted me and I dont even think its the main point of the story which Andrew can articulate much better than any of us up here but I do think it is an aspect of it certainly and um getting into it getting into the story I was surprised to see how much a tabloid quotient media was alive and well at that time still um operated by sensationalism and complete fabrication beyond the fact and it was curious to me to see that not much has changed besides quantity (Talks) well I you know the film picks up the last year of his life and um he was certainly coming from a place of great paranoia most of it justified and I would argue that that paranoia consumed him and certainly responsible for a lot of his erratic actions its also true to say while there is the Robin Hood to him which was based in truth and he did help perpetuate its also truth to say that he was a ruthless killer before much before the film starts A03. HRN-1486 In: Out: Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - A04. HRN-1486 In: 00.03.03 Out: 00.04.38 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - I dont see it as a retelling I understood it as a the myth we grew up with certainly in America in American folklore but I think Andrew can answer this best if I can pass it your way Andrew you know just the characters seemed really good and you know it was the book the book was beautiful it was really dense I liked the language the sense you got characters really struggling with themselves it seemed to have a lot of good scenes it was thematically rich you know the only thing it didnt really have was a plot you know but other than that everything else you know everything else seemed to be in place you know ? I think its about human behavior more than I think its about names and legends I think it makes great effort to suggest its not just a name or a legend theres actually people behind those names and they have feelings and a big range of feelings and theyre fallible have desires and hopes and fears it felt real it felt timeless Jules for me what I knew nothing about was the relationship between Robert Ford and Jesse James that was something that was interesting for me to see and the dynamic that had gone on between the two of them and also the rest of the guys in the gang so I think that unlike some of the movies Id seen Id known about it but I hadnt known that A05. HRN-1486 In: 00.04.58 Out: 00.05.44 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad funny enough it was close to the same location where I had shot ten years before a film called Legends of the Fall and we had a lot of the same crew a lot of the same wranglers and stunt men that I had worked with before so it was really nice to be reunited on that front but as you see we originally came here for Legends because it was one of the few places where you had beautifully expenses of country minus the telephone poles and now you can just digitally erase those coming back to the location really shapes the feeling of the film its as much a character as anything Casey and I do in the film its really nice to be back A06. HRN-1486 In: 00.06.08 Out: 00.07.15 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad well a lot of my family is still in Missouri but when I do get home and I do because I have to take the grand kids back my folks would kill me its mainly just spending time with the family but its a its a really gentle sweet place to reside in um as far as fame look I know the deal and I understand the tradeoff there are also great perks to what we do we get to travel and see the world and we manage it the only time it becomes unmanageable to me is when its a full frontal assault on the kids which unfortunately has become make a crazy face and the cameras go wild um and thats the one thats on the front page unfortunately there is no line concerning family these days and that concerns me this day and age thats the only thing that really bothers me A07. HRN-1486 In: 00.7.42 Out: 00.10.50 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Andrew hes the man who shot Jesse James (talks) well you know Casey would get real upset if you cut away his face you know (talks) Casey well oh I dont know its a little bit French its you know a lot of it was I mean to answer this gentlemans question I cant really they put the camera on you and turn it on for the duration for the scene and how ever long they leave it on is up to Andrew so I had nothing to do with that um but you know to answer your question how to gauge those things wasnt always easy and you know you kind of I guess it came through with a lot of conversation with Andrew about what the characters feel is he had a kind of not only thoroughly researched but a very kind of intuitive understanding for I think all the characters and um so I kind of relied on him as a kind of a guide sometimes and sometimes Id have my own sense of what hes feeling and you kind of just take it scene to scene Im not really sure is that enough of a French answer I dont know Brad you made a great point about the degree of difficulty for the roll and I hope thats understood because its so complex and when Casey theres a lot of us that have known Casey for many years and been big fans of him and known him to be much more than the parts hes been able to play so were really happy to see him win this opportunity it was a coveted role working with Andrew and because it was such a big role and to see him score like this is really rewarding for all of us and I just think he did an amazing job and hes gonna itll be nice to see what else he does A08. HRN-1486 In: 00.11.13 Out: 00.12.11 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad funny enough the microscope is really not on us I have to say a lot of it has nothing to do with has nothing to do with my actual life but it is true its in some ways you say well youve made this deal and thats a part of it but on the other hand you really do not know what your getting into and because the focus of that time comes from the love for movies and wanting to be a part of movies and tell stories and be really good at it and thats your focus and when this other thing comes a long it can be discombobulating but you acclimate A09. HRN-1486 In: 00.12.33 Out: 00.13.35 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad You want to talk about the locations Andrew look when you direct a movie you notice that its cold you know like when it got cold in Calgary you got to dress like an astronaut to go to work but you only notice it for like ten minutes or so you know and then you start working and your looking at the little screen and you forget everything I mean it was a great place to work Canada the crews were fantastic everyone was it was beautiful you got this thing where the sun takes like three hours to set you know you got great light at the end of the day and it was fantastic it wasnt really challenging in that Brad yeah its something thats just accepted it becomes part of the day part of the scene and um I guess to want to be in films at all you have to be a bit adventurous cause its part of the draw A10. HRN-1486 In: 00.13.55 Out: 00.15.59 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad if you havent seen Chopper well then you havent seen Chopper but you should see it it is mean streets good in my book Andrew you know no I didnt have final cut but you know its such a weird movie idiosyncratic movie and it is what it is you know and theres not much you can do to change it you know I mean there was the kind of usual squabbles that you have everyone feels really passionate about the film and everybody sitting here has given blood to the movie in one way or another and has been just unhealthily involved in it you know and you know its nice to be here and the film seems to be going over well and thats great and you know like um I dont know it was difficult it was a difficult film but I have to say I think that everybody has been supportive the studio gave us 30 plus million dollars to go and make a weird movie and thats fantastic Brad and a lot of time to get it right was there luxury (talks) it wasnt delayed a year Andrew basically you know the film was obviously not going to fall together in the ten weeks we had to cut the picture do you know what Im saying it was a tough movie to cut it doesnt have a plot its based on the emotional energies of each scene building the right way the performances are complex all you got is characters and you know you got to get that stuff balanced and its a fall movie your not gonna release it in summer you miss one fall you get the next one in the mean time theres time to kink it but you know I mean there been stories about it being a troubled film and it being a train wreck and all that stuff and its only worked in our favor I think because the movie is a lot better than people were expecting or lead to believe A11. HRN-1486 In: 00.16.13 Out: 00.17.08 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Andrew um its weird like I dont really think human beings have changed at all in 2000 years um so you know the people in the story just feel really human to me like a I dont see it as being irrelevant today its this unfortunate thing if something happened before 1980 it falls into this black hole of how people are gonna relate to it their gonna call each other dude and talk about being amped up you know taking things to the next level but you know to me the movie I dont know does it really feel like a period film I guess the language is pretty fruity you dont worry about it you know you just try and make a film that youd like to see and hope other people would like it too A12. HRN-1486 In: 00.17.23 Out: 00.17.59 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad well its probably misleading as far as the genre as we understand it its probably better to say psychological drama or Andrews called it more of a gangster film at some time at some point um but you know its hard to come up with one category or path that I think accurately describes it so its all about a good trailer in my eyes A13. HRN-1486 In: 00.18.23 Out: 00.19.04 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad Ah no (talks) no I mean the nice thing for me which I was surprised by I didnt realize that how much it would mean to me was doing something that related so much to the area where I grew up and every time I would I still see the Missouri crawl come up on the screen it quietly gives me a little pleasure its just nice to its just nice for me to have something that is just some kind of connection to the place that shaped me A14. HRN-1486 In: 00.18.23 Out: 00.20.14 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad no no I hear stories of actors not being able to put away the role thats never been my affliction I usually have more difficulty getting to the role and very happy to put it down when its done but the mercurial aspect of the characters what was most interesting to me this man that could see the end coming and I really relied on Andrew to keep the reigns on that and it paid off A15. HRN-1486 In: 00.20. 30 Out: 00.21.06 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Andrew - well you know the narration was obviously gonna be there its the way the book was and you know its a tragedy we all know how its gonna end its just a question of how and I like narration from the point of view of you know providing a sense of you know it is written or a sense of fatalism and I also like the kind of fairy taleish quality that it gives to the story A16. HRN-1486 In: 00.21.18 Out: 00.23.07 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad well this is well documented in the book this is the thing that historians argue over because there was two curiosities About this last time and that is the fact he gave the gun to his would be assassin and the very gun that would kill him days later and that he also took his gun belts off at the moment or what became the moment of his assassination which he never did so the two theories are one that he had full knowledge of what Robert Ford or the Ford brothers were capable of and were after and was taunting them and was going to take them out at a later time and it was a bad gamble and a gamble he lost the other argument is that he was unhinged he was weary of this life on the run and that it was actually a puppeteered suicide unconscious or conscious well it remains ambiguous and I couldnt pretend to know it could go either way (talks) thats a fair question I kind of played with both and then trusted Andrew to shape it as what played best I toyed with both versions Yeah yeah both versions that it could be either one take those takes didnt get in the movie and these takes did A17. HRN-1486 In: 00.23.23 Out: 00.23.54 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad these are things that dont amount to anything on film other than just important to the actor little things that meant something to me that made it feel a bit authentic its silly maybe its even superstitious its sounds silly on the outside but for me it makes sense thats all I can tell ya no no no A18. HRN-1486 In: 00.24.07 Out: 00.24.49 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I havent been jumped like that in some time I have to say um listen I dont want to change my life because of paranoia it could point out that we can be very vulnerable in these situations and that there are a couple people out there who are maybe not playing with a full deck but Im not changing a thing A19. HRN-1486 In: 00.25.03 Out: 00.27.10 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I dont know how to rate on I mean I wouldnt even begin on how to rate on importance or but I was really surprised and remain surprised its not what I just didnt expect it this has been a long road this film it was hard for us and a privilege to release it in this great city and I have friends who are also unleashing their films in this city and it was just a really nice time for us so listen to have this happen you know I could try to play it down but its great fun its really fun and (talks) I had a golden globe like a decade ago maybe but its never the focus I really believe in how do you personally feel at the end of the day have you given your best and whats the quality of the film but at the same time we all have our jobs and we all want to um be really good at it and to have this kind of acknowledgement is a real honor I hope everyone gets to experience it the whats interesting about it all is how excited my friends are for me and including these guys here and on the inside and be a part the last thing I would add to that just to be a part of lineage be amongst the lineage of people who have also been bestowed this honor its really a nice honor (talks) I dont even play that game A20. HRN-1486 In: 00.27.25 Out: 00.219.04 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad Im gonna give that one to Andrew Andrew Oh me Im gonna answer this one I dont know theyre fun to watch you know I dont know (talks) well I dont know I dont consider Jesse James to be a psychopathic serial killer I consider him to be a person whos like a you know hes got some problems but you know he seems a lot more well rounded than that and theres all kinds of different portrayals of the violent in movies the psychopathic serial killers a popular one because they like the evil aspect aliens that intrude upon our world and we dont have to accept any responsibility for them theyre like these you know you know like vampires or something you know I think um you know its drama and drama requires conflict and it requires people to do things like you know I think Jesse is a character you can have a multitude of feelings about hes somebody that you can be frightened of and also have real feelings of empathy for and I like that I like to have feelings for people I watch on screen I dont know I guess its a personal thing A21. HRN-1486 In: 00.29.23 Out: 00.30.54 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad the four and a half hour version Andrew youll never see a four and a half hour version I mean it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world to see a longer version of the picture Im not sure it would Im not sure if it would be any better than this one (talks) Casey not really I didnt see too many versions of this I kind of saw one it was only slightly different and you know you just have to kind of trust that the person that conceived the thing and labored over it and brought it to life is going to make the best decision about what belongs in the movie and what doesnt its really hard to look at something especially if you just sitting down one time look at it and say wow this should have been gone this other thing should have been in I mean how many times have you sat you write your article and you think its good you come back the next day and you go god damnit this thing sucks it would be hubris for me to sit here and say that I know any better or something doesnt belong in the there are things that I but I do there are scenes that I liked but they Andrew theres stuff weve all been sorry to see go Brad yeah on its own but at the same time if it doesnt help the overall piece then its got to go A22. HRN-1486 In: 00.31.08 Out: 00.31.59 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad the preparations were really all the same whether it be comedy or this or anything else um you know it comes with research and study and you start to find you start to narrow in on an idea and gets tried out and it really gets shaped in the first few weeks through trial and error whats feeling right whats feeling wrong but I had a really nice advantage as I say being from the same area so the cadence and the temper of how people relate there at least what I understand today what I drew from and a dialect I drew from I was comfortable with horses did a little quick draw and I was ready to go A23. HRN-1486 In: 00.32.23 Out: 00.32.44 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I really dont know enough about it to comment it requires much more study before I can make an informed comment on that A24. HRN-1486 In: 00.32.53 Out: 00.35.29 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Nop no the departure was something we developed and we developed for a couple of years and when Marty came on I mean Marty doesnt need our help so we were happy to turn it over and thats when Graham King came in and helped with the production post production and to be eligible you have to be involved in the pre-production production and post-production thats how that functions thats the rules and the rules are the rules so fair play we were happy just to be a part of it (talks) yeah well this is still coming from the same thing that got me into it and thats a love for film and a love for stories and the belief that stories can educate and the belief that stories can strictly entertain and just be a part of those stories that I wouldnt necessarily be right we had a very D.D. and I had a very simple edict and that was story teller and the story and protect that so a lot of producing is at least from my point D.D. does a lot of the heavy lifting and a couple of others that work with us from my point its really about getting out of the way make sure the director has room to go where he needs to go but its also more than that its being a buffer between the artistic side and the financial side and helping the two get a long and the most important thing I would say from what little experience that Ive had is that its quality control a film can be told a hundred different ways and theres two hundred different ways it can be told badly so that even make sense hundred different ways two hundred it sounded good and so its really about quality control from first inception conception and um and till this moment now it being released A25. HRN-1486 In: 00.35. 38 Out: 00.36.14 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad it just immediately makes you laugh doesnt it (talks) yeah hes gonna take me out um what was the one he did red surf go see it wait wait (talks) A26. HRN-1486 In: 00.36.53 Out: 00.37.34 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Andrew you know Edmonton park is not theres not a million places like that you know living village from the late 1800s nor is there one where the sun rises on this side of the street and just back lights the windows all day so we felt pretty thrilled when we found it it was fantastic (talks) well if we make another movie in the 19th century well certainly be back A27. HRN-1486 In: 00.37.43 Out: 00.38.44 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Casey well I dont think my son sees me on T.V. all that much sure he doesnt watch T.V. he doesnt know that much about it so Im gonna just dodge this question Brad you know it all remains to be seen but I would definitely recommend a maturity you know post 18 before you got into this thing because it can be very discombobulating and yeah Casey listen it gets a bad wrap but theres a lot of interesting creative people that your pretty lucky to be in this profession where you spend all your time thinking about like stories and working with very super talented fun nice people so its not that bad A28. HRN-1486 In: 00.38.53 Out: 00.39.14 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad yeah in fact I rely on it Im shes the best sounding board I have and I value her opinion immensely it pisses me off sometimes but but shes good shes really she loves the film A29. HRN-1486 In: 00.39.23 Out: 00.40.24 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad to change something on me I really I dont spend any time on that I would rather go the other way and accept exactly who you are take it from there (talks) in this film it was more overall keeping the reigns on this mercurial character I said earlier but then again I had Andrew in really good hands we had a night scene that was a really beautiful scene that I found quite difficult its not in the film so theres no use to talk about it but I dont have anything for you really A30. HRN-1486 In: 00.40.26 Out: 00.40.48 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I actually did one animation with that in mind but I think thats actually more confusing for the kids but your that sounds like but Id rather keep it separate rather them just enjoy their cartoons with out any more confusion in their lives A31. HRN-1486 In: 00.40.03 Out: 00.41.34 Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I mean I love this kind of film this kind of film breaths and allows for human moments its my favorite kind of story telling its what lead me to Andrew but I like all film and theres room for all film and theres need for all film so I wouldnt distinguish one or other Id probably hit the wall if I just focused on one aspect of story telling
- Description:00:00:04 - B-Roll: Introducing Panel 00:01:25 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad Not completely what attracted me and I dont even think its the main point of the story which Andrew can articulate much better than any of us up here but I do think it is an aspect of it certainly and um getting into it getting into the story I was surprised to see how much a tabloid quotient media was alive and well at that time still um operated by sensationalism and complete fabrication beyond the fact and it was curious to me to see that not much has changed besides quantity (Talks) well I you know the film picks up the last year of his life and um he was certainly coming from a place of great paranoia most of it justified and I would argue that that paranoia consumed him and certainly responsible for a lot of his erratic actions its also true to say while there is the Robin Hood to him which was based in truth and he did help perpetuate its also truth to say that he was a ruthless killer before much before the film starts 00:03:03 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - I dont see it as a retelling I understood it as a the myth we grew up with certainly in America in American folklore but I think Andrew can answer this best if I can pass it your way Andrew you know just the characters seemed really good and you know it was the book the book was beautiful it was really dense I liked the language the sense you got characters really struggling with themselves it seemed to have a lot of good scenes it was thematically rich you know the only thing it didnt really have was a plot you know but other than that everything else you know everything else seemed to be in place you know ? I think its about human behavior more than I think its about names and legends I think it makes great effort to suggest its not just a name or a legend theres actually people behind those names and they have feelings and a big range of feelings and theyre fallible have desires and hopes and fears it felt real it felt timeless Jules for me what I knew nothing about was the relationship between Robert Ford and Jesse James that was something that was interesting for me to see and the dynamic that had gone on between the two of them and also the rest of the guys in the gang so I think that unlike some of the movies Id seen Id known about it but I hadnt known that 00:04:58 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad funny enough it was close to the same location where I had shot ten years before a film called Legends of the Fall and we had a lot of the same crew a lot of the same wranglers and stunt men that I had worked with before so it was really nice to be reunited on that front but as you see we originally came here for Legends because it was one of the few places where you had beautifully expenses of country minus the telephone poles and now you can just digitally erase those coming back to the location really shapes the feeling of the film its as much a character as anything Casey and I do in the film its really nice to be back 00:06:08 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad well a lot of my family is still in Missouri but when I do get home and I do because I have to take the grand kids back my folks would kill me its mainly just spending time with the family but its a its a really gentle sweet place to reside in um as far as fame look I know the deal and I understand the tradeoff there are also great perks to what we do we get to travel and see the world and we manage it the only time it becomes unmanageable to me is when its a full frontal assault on the kids which unfortunately has become make a crazy face and the cameras go wild um and thats the one thats on the front page unfortunately there is no line concerning family these days and that concerns me this day and age thats the only thing that really bothers me 00:07:42 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Andrew hes the man who shot Jesse James (talks) well you know Casey would get real upset if you cut away his face you know (talks) Casey well oh I dont know its a little bit French its you know a lot of it was I mean to answer this gentlemans question I cant really they put the camera on you and turn it on for the duration for the scene and how ever long they leave it on is up to Andrew so I had nothing to do with that um but you know to answer your question how to gauge those things wasnt always easy and you know you kind of I guess it came through with a lot of conversation with Andrew about what the characters feel is he had a kind of not only thoroughly researched but a very kind of intuitive understanding for I think all the characters and um so I kind of relied on him as a kind of a guide sometimes and sometimes Id have my own sense of what hes feeling and you kind of just take it scene to scene Im not really sure is that enough of a French answer I dont know Brad you made a great point about the degree of difficulty for the roll and I hope thats understood because its so complex and when Casey theres a lot of us that have know casey for many years and been big fans of him and known him to be much more than the parts hes been able to play so were really happy to see him win this opportunity it was a coveted role working with Andrew and because it was such a big role and to see him score like this is really rewarding for all of us and I just think he did an amazing job and hes gonna itll be nice to see what else he does 00:11:13 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad funny enough the microscope is really not on us I have to say a lot of it has nothing to do with has nothing to do with my actual life but it is true its in some ways you say well youve made this deal and thats a part of it but on the other hand you really do not know what your getting into and because the focus of that time comes from the love for movies and wanting to be a part of movies and tell stories and be really good at it and thats your focus and when this other thing comes a long it can be discombobulating but you acclimate 00:12:33 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad You want to talk about the locations Andrew look when you direct a movie you notice that its cold you know like when it got cold in Calgary you got to dress like an astronaut to go to work but you only notice it for like ten minutes or so you know and then you start working and your looking at the little screen and you forget everything I mean it was a great place to work Canada the crews were fantastic everyone was it was beautiful you got this thing where the sun takes like three hours to set you know you got great light at the end of the day and it was fantastic it wasnt really challenging in that Brad yeah its something thats just accepted it becomes part of the day part of the scene and um I guess to want to be in films at all you have to be a bit adventurous cause its part of the draw 00:13:55 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad if you havent seen Chopper well then you havent seen Chopper but you should see it it is mean streets good in my book Andrew you know no I didnt have final cut but you know its such a weird movie idiosyncratic movie and it is what it is you know and theres not much you can do to change it you know I mean there was the kind of usual squabbles that you have everyone feels really passionate about the film and everybody sitting here has given blood to the movie in one way or another and has been just unhealthily involved in it you know and you know its nice to be here and the film seems to be going over well and thats great and you know like um I dont know it was difficult it was a difficult film but I have to say I think that everybody has been supportive the studio gave us 30 plus million dollars to go and make a weird movie and thats fantastic Brad and a lot of time to get it right was there luxury (talks) it wasnt delayed a year Andrew basically you know the film was obviously not going to fall together in the ten weeks we had to cut the picture do you know what Im saying it was a tough movie to cut it doesnt have a plot its based on the emotional energies of each scene building the right way the performances are complex all you got is characters and you know you got to get that stuff balanced and its a fall movie your not gonna release it in summer you miss one fall you get the next one in the mean time theres time to kink it but you know I mean there been stories about it being a troubled film and it being a train wreck and all that stuff and its only worked in our favor I think because the movie is a lot better than people were expecting or lead to believe 00:16:13 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Andrew um its weird like I dont really think human beings have changed at all in 2000 years um so you know the people in the story just feel really human to me like a I dont see it as being irrelevant today its this unfortunate thing if something happened before 1980 it falls into this black hole of how people are gonna relate to it their gonna call each other dude and talk about being amped up you know taking things to the next level but you know to me the movie I dont know does it really feel like a period film I guess the language is pretty fruity you dont worry about it you know you just try and make a film that youd like to see and hope other people would like it too 00:17:23 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director - Brad well its probably misleading as far as the genre as we understand it its probably better to say psychological drama or Andrews called it more of a gangster film at some time at some point um but you know its hard to come up with one category or path that I think accurately describes it so its all about a good trailer in my eyes 00:18:23 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad Ah no (talks) no I mean the nice thing for me which I was surprised by I didnt realize that how much it would mean to me was doing something that related so much to the area where I grew up and every time I would I still see the Missouri crawl come up on the screen it quietly gives me a little pleasure its just nice to its just nice for me to have something that is just some kind of connection to the place that shaped me 00:20:30 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Andrew - well you know the narration was obviously gonna be there its the way the book was and you know its a tragedy we all know how its gonna end its just a question of how and I like narration from the point of view of you know providing a sense of you know it is written or a sense of fatalism and I also like the kind of fairy taleish quality that it gives to the story 00:21:18 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad well this is well documented in the book this is the thing that historians argue over because there was two curiosities About this last time and that is the fact he gave the gun to his would be assassin and the very gun that would kill him days later and that he also took his gun belts off at the moment or what became the moment of his assassination which he never did so the two theories are one that he had full knowledge of what Robert Ford or the Ford brothers were capable of and were after and was taunting them and was going to take them out at a later time and it was a bad gamble and a gamble he lost the other argument is that he was unhinged he was weary of this life on the run and that it was actually a puppeteered suicide unconscious or conscious well it remains ambiguous and I couldnt pretend to know it could go either way (talks) thats a fair question I kind of played with both and then trusted Andrew to shape it as what played best I toyed with both versions Yeah yeah both versions that it could be either one take those takes didnt get in the movie and these takes did 00:23:23 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad these are things that dont amount to anything on film other than just important to the actor little things that meant something to me that made it feel a bit authentic its silly maybe its even superstitious its sounds silly on the outside but for me it makes sense thats all I can tell ya no no no 00:24:07 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I havent been jumped like that in some time I have to say um listen I dont want to change my life because of paranoia it could point out that we can be very vulnerable in these situations and that there are a couple people out there who are maybe not playing with a full deck but Im not changing a thing 00:25:03 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I dont know how to rate on I mean I wouldnt even begin on how to rate on importance or but I was really surprised and remain surprised its not what I just didnt expect it this has been a long road this film it was hard for us and a privilege to release it in this great city and I have friends who are also unleashing their films in this city and it was just a really nice time for us so listen to have this happen you know I could try to play it down but its great fun its really fun and (talks) I had a golden globe like a decade ago maybe but its never the focus I really believe in how do you personally feel at the end of the day have you given your best and whats the quality of the film but at the same time we all have our jobs and we all want to um be really good at it and to have this kind of acknowledgement is a real honor I hope everyone gets to experience it the whats interesting about it all is how excited my friends are for me and including these guys here and on the inside and be a part the last thing I would add to that just to be a part of lineage be amongst the lineage of people who have also been bestowed this honor its really a nice honor (talks) I dont even play that game 00:27:25 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad Im gonna give that one to Andrew Andrew Oh me Im gonna answer this one I dont know theyre fun to watch you know I dont know (talks) well I dont know I dont consider Jesse James to be a psychopathic serial killer I consider him to be a person whos like a you know hes got some problems but you know he seems a lot more well rounded than that and theres all kinds of different portrayals of the violent in movies the psychopathic serial killers a popular one because they like the evil aspect aliens that intrude upon our world and we dont have to accept any responsibility for them theyre like these you know you know like vampires or something you know I think um you know its drama and drama requires conflict and it requires people to do things like you know I think Jesse is a character you can have a multitude of feelings about hes somebody that you can be frightened of and also have real feelings of empathy for and I like that I like to have feelings for people I watch on screen I dont know I guess its a personal thing 00:29:23 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad the four and a half hour version Andrew youll never see a four and a half hour version I mean it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world to see a longer version of the picture Im not sure it would Im not sure if it would be any better than this one (talks) Casey not really I didnt see too many versions of this I kind of saw one it was only slightly different and you know you just have to kind of trust that the person that conceived the thing and labored over it and brought it to life is going to make the best decision about what belongs in the movie and what doesnt its really hard to look at something especially if you just sitting down one time look at it and say wow this should have been gone this other thing should have been in I mean how many times have you sat you write your article and you think its good you come back the next day and you go god damnit this thing sucks it would be hubris for me to sit here and say that I know any better or something doesnt belong in the there are things that I but I do there are scenes that I liked but they Andrew theres stuff weve all been sorry to see go Brad yeah on its own but at the same time if it doesnt help the overall piece then its got to go 00:31:08 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad the preparations were really all the same whether it be comedy or this or anything else um you know it comes with research and study and you start to find you start to narrow in on an idea and gets tried out and it really gets shaped in the first few weeks through trial and error whats feeling right whats feeling wrong but I had a really nice advantage as I say being from the same area so the cadence and the temper of how people relate there atleast what I understand today what I drew from and a dialect I drew from I was comfortable with horses did a little quick draw and I was ready to go 00:32:23 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I really dont know enough about it to comment it requires much more study before I can make an informed comment on that 00:32:53 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Nop no the departure was something we developed and we developed for a couple of years and when Marty came on I mean Marty doesnt need our help so we were happy to turn it over and thats when Grahm King came in and helped with the production post production and to be eligible you have to be involved in the pre-production production and post-production thats how that functions thats the rules and the rules are the rules so fair play we were happy just to be a part of it (talks) yeah well this is still coming from the same thing that got me into it and thats a love for film and a love for stories and the belief that stories can educate and the belief that stories can strictly entertain and just be a part of those stories that I wouldnt necessarily be right we had a very D.D. and I had a very simple edict and that was story teller and the story and protect that so a lot of producing is atleast from my point D.D. does a lot of the heavy lifting and a couple of others that work with us from my point its really about getting out of the way make sure the director has room to go where he needs to go but its also more than that its being a buffer between the artistic side and the financial side and helping the two get a long and the most important thing I would say from what little experience that Ive had is that its quality control a film can be told a hundred different ways and theres two hundred different ways it can be told badly so that even make sense hundred different ways two hundred it sounded good and so its really about quality control from first inception conception and um and till this moment now it being released 00:35:38 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad it just immediately makes you laugh doesnt it (talks) yeah hes gonna take me out um what was the one he did red surf go see it wait wait (talks) 00:36:53 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Andrew you know Edmonton park is not theres not a million places like that you know living village from the late 1800s nor is there one where the sun rises on this side of the street and just back lights the windows all day so we felt pretty thrilled when we found it it was fantastic (talks) well if we make another movie in the 19th century well certainly be back 00:37:43 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Casey well I dont think my son sees me on T.V. all that much sure he doesnt watch T.V. he doesnt know that much about it so Im gonna just dodge this question Brad you know it all remains to be seen but I would definitely recommend a maturity you know post 18 before you got into this thing because it can be very discombobulating and yeah Casey listen it gets a bad wrap but theres a lot of interesting creative people that your pretty lucky to be in this profession where you spend all your time thinking about like stories and working with very super talented fun nice people so its not that bad 00:38:53 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad yeah in fact I rely on it Im shes the best sounding board I have and I value her opinion immensely it pisses me off sometimes but but shes good shes really she loves the film 00:39:23 - 00:40:03 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I mean I love this kind of film this kind of film breaths and allows for human moments its my favorite kind of story telling its what lead me to Andrew but I like all film and theres room for all film and theres need for all film so I wouldnt distinguish one or other Id probably hit the wall if I just focused on one aspect of story telling 00:40:26 - Sound Bite: Brad Pitt, Casey Affleck, Director Brad I actually did one animation with that in mind but I think thats actually more confusing for the kids but your that sounds like but Id rather keep it separate rather them just enjoy their cartoons with out any more confusion in their lives
- Collection: Historic Films
- Producer:Historic Films
- Transmission Date:01/01/2007
- Rights:On request
- Decade: 2000s
- File Name: FJ-HRN-1486